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Hello. I wonder why you don't include BMW F15, F30, etc. in the Fortin list? It's a simple logic: After the bypass relay is turned on (key in the coil), after 2 sec. pulse on a start-stop for 1 sec... After 3 sec. f pulse to the brake pedal for 5 sec. and after 2 sec. a start-stop pulse for 1 sec. (500 Ohm...or 680 Ohm...or 1000 Ohm). I'm struggling to put this together with some kind of autostart, but it would be easier with Fortin.

2015 Dodge Dart, Manual Transmission. EVO One SN 002B04248404 with both factory key fob (tip style) and  Crimestopper Revo 4.1 Extended Range fobs. Installed using CHAR7 T harness.

Installed per guidelines. Seemed straight forward. Programmed Module using default suggestions. Decryptor appeared to work without error. 

Was able to start vehicle using factory key fob. Performed manual ready procedure…. Brake pedal, E brake, removed ignition key. Vehicle continued to run. Exited the vehicle and closed the door. At this point was unable to get the vehicle to stop running. Vehicle’s dash did indicate when the door was open and subsequently closed. Confirmed all  other doors and trunk were closed throughout the installation and testing. Hood groundout was wired but the hood remained closed and we confirmed the hood pin adjustment wasn’t grounding the module out.  

In one attempt, we started the vehicle, performed the manual ready mode procedure, exited the vehicle, waited 20 seconds, and then using the Revo fob lock functionality was able to shut off the vehicle but still, click 3 unlocks or the factory keyfob or “start” on the Revo fob did not result in the car starting. 

(8 hours later……)

After multiple attempts and rechecking the wire harness for correctness, reviewing the question and answers info on Fortin, and praying to the “Remote Gods”, we gave up. 

Any advice? Also… help me understand how many times I can reset the module and run the decryptor application. In an attempt to get this working, I think I performed the operation 4x’s. 

I seem to remember you can brick the module if you run the crypto too many times. Then I read something about as much as you want within a 5 year of module manufacturing date. Please clarify this. I certainly don’t want to “brick” the module.

Regards,

Rob

update: Confirmed that the EVO One module cannot be "bricked". Worst case scenario is that it has to be reset by Fortin Support, but that it can be reprogrammed manytimes (at least for the same vehicle) manytimes without losing it's functionality. 

Have been able to get the car to run after removing the key from the ignition, but have not been able to get the car to shutoff when closing drivers door as indicated as a step or procedure in the "Manual Ready Mode Manual". Was able to get the vehicle to shut off via the start option on the aftermarket Revo 4 FOB, but that seemingly put the vehicle out of "ready mode" status as it would never allow for a successful remote start. 

Still scouring for answer as to why the vehicle will not shut off on its own when exiting the vehicle thus remaining in "ready mode" and allowing the remote start functionality to work properly.

This is on my 2018 Subaru Outback, US model 

REGULAR KEY - Automatic Transmission - No factory alarm system (from what I can tell) - Yes factory immobilizer

Remote Start: Fortin EVO One. Firmware Version: 84.12. Using Flashlink USB programmer. 

Wire Harness: THAR-SUBONE-SUB1 & THAR-SUBONE-SUB3  (both SUB1 & SUB3 harnesses simultaneously I guess? Though initially unsure, I went forward & did order and installed both as shown in the diagram linked in the next line down. Specifically, on page 5 out of Ten, the page with the heading: THAR-ONE-SUB1 & THAR-ONE-SUB3 | AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION CONNECTION )

I made the connections as indicated on this PDF I found on your website:  https://fortin.ca/download/99401/EVO-ONE_IG_RTO_BI_SUB1-SUB3_OUTBACK_2018_KEY_A_99401.pdf

Before connecting to the car, I:

1.  connected the evo one to my laptop & ran the flashlink software. 

2. The software recognized the USB programmer. 

3 Then I plugged in the Evo One module & confirmed it was detected in flashlink software

4. I logged in, then input the following vehicle data: 2018 subaru outback, regular key .

5. I let the flashlink software download the newest firmware & recommended settings for the 2018 subaru outback
6. I hit the program button to send the configuration to the Evo One

7. Disconnected Evo one from the flashlink programmer & held down the programming button 

8. While holding down the programming button, plugged in the 6 pin connector from the Sub-One harness, at this point installed in the car, to the Evo One

9. Continued holding down programming button while the red yellow & blue lights cycled, then released the button when the lights were lit up RED & Blue simultaneously 

10. Began to press the programming button 6 times to enter the programming mode

11. However, right after the very first push of the programming button the red & blue lights would blink once & then go back to solid red & blue so I continued pushing 5 more times to get a total of 6 presses.

13. At this point, the module is blinking red & blue simultaneously 5 times in a row > pause > blink red & blue 5x again > pause > red & blue 5x blink > continues in perpetuity until I insert the vehicle key & turn it to the Ignition 2 position (2 clicks/aka accessory mode)

12. Soon as key turns to ignition 2 setting, The RED & BLUE lights both light up & stay on continuously.

13. The instructions say to start the car at this point, but turning the key from Ignition 2 to Start does not cycle the starter. No lights dim, no clicking from relays, it is not even trying to start. 

14. I hold the key in start position for about 2-3 seconds, then release it back to ignition 2 which would leave the vehicle running normally if it had started at this point

15. The red & blue lights on the evo one continue to stay lit continuously & never reach the part where they flash 10 times, ostensibly because the engine never even started still which does make sense.

I guess my question is, does this have anything to do with the jumper that is shown in the PDF? I don't understand what the diagram is trying to say with the Jumper A & Jumper B section. Does the jumper in jumper A need to be removed? And then the cable in the jumper b position get plugged back into the Sub 3 harness? But only for the outback & legacy models of the car? I'm not quite clear what I'm supposed to do with the jumper A OR the Jumper B. So I just left them both plugged in. 

After a while sitting in ignition 2 position with the red & blue lights lit up on the evo still, I just gave up & turned the key off then unplugged the : 5p Data link wire > 6p red plug > 20p white plug > 6p main power plug from the evo to turn it off. Then plugged it back into the flashlink programmer & attempted to see if I could do the decryptor programming anyway, but as expected I get the notification that the module never received the datalink information

I also tried reflashing the module once or twice to be sure the settings stuck, the behavior of the vehicle stays the same. I have read through about 50 of the first quiestions that were relevant to this generation subaru that I could find on here and have not seen this answered elsewhere. I hope maybe someone can advise me on what tthe jumpers do, what I should do with the jumpers in jumper A & jumper B plugs, and how they would affect, if at all, the vehicle no longer starting with the regular key